CONCEALMENT 33 Carrying with an Empty Chamber Dave Merrill 6 Comments, Join the Conversation At RECOIL, we review every product fairly and without bias. Making a purchase through one of our links may earn us a small commission, and helps support independent gun reviews. Learn More The Hows and Whys (and Fixing) of the Israeli Carry WayA magazine filled with defensive ammunition, but none in the pipe. The chamber sitting empty before the action. This is empty-chamber carry, and it’s been subject to great debate in the American gunosphere. So, let’s discuss its history, the motivations behind the empty chamber, how to solve those problems, and lastly how to do it right if you’re going to do it anyway.HISTORYISRAELThere’s a reason why carrying with an empty chamber is also called “Israeli Carry.” This form of carry has been a standard in Israel for so long that many instructors don’t even know why they initially started doing it. A goodly portion is due to the fact the Israeli military has always had a smattering of different pistols. This continues into the 21st century, to say nothing of when the nation was founded so many years ago.There are modern American pistols that aren’t as drop-safe as we’ve been led to believe, so imagine what the wide world of pistols looked like at the end of the 1940s. If you’re carrying a pistol that can potentially pop off if you drop it, and you have one in the chamber and you drop it … what then? Carrying on an empty chamber effectively negates that risk. Furthermore, different pistols have different manual safety mechanisms located in different places, and so for a fighting force with a mishmash of pistols, “rack the slide, then shoot” can be a universal answer, with the other safeties (if they even exist) staying disengaged.Another issue aside from the pistols themselves were the holsters. Available holsters ranged from homemade affairs, coat pockets, and those adapted from other platforms. Modern Safarilands they were not.Coming along for the ride of this tapestry of equipment was an early and persistent problem of gun grabs at checkpoints. Sometimes those that were stopped would take their chances, lunging for the gun of a guard to use it against them. The chamber being empty added an extra step, giving the checkpoint worker an additional ounce of reaction time in the event of an attack. Finally, the level of training always comes into play. A young conscript army may still be quite motivated, but the general level of proficiency will be lower than a fully professional force. This means less experience and more accidents.AMERICABut it’s not just the Israelis, either. Early GWOT was rife with negligent discharges, some of which caused unnecessary injuries and deaths. And what was the most common weapon these negligent discharges occurred with? The M9 pistol.The M9 is drop-safe and there were plenty of professional holsters, but training remains an issue. Part of the problem is that the people most likely to carry pistols, namely administrative staff NCOs and officers, also were the least likely to receive adequate time and training in its use.It got bad enough that starting in 2004, pistols carried by U.S. Armed Forces had to be carried with empty chambers, even when outside the wire. While this rule didn’t really apply in the same way to special units — and was widely ignored by those more likely to actually use their pistols in combat — those service members were in the extreme minority when it comes to who was actually issued a pistol. It’s also noteworthy that the people in those positions were also far more likely to receive more advanced training in their use.American police also have problems with gun grabs, which is the biggest reason special retention holsters were designed in the first place. Their shotguns often ride in a similar condition (referred to as “cruiser ready”), and the same goes for rifles in the rack. DOWNSIDESAll of these reasons can be distilled into one big bucket: safety. Safer when dropped. Safer when carried. Safer when unwanted hands get on them. However, this advantage of perceived safety comes with downsides, the number one of which is speed. The additional actions of having to run the slide adds time to the equation, eating into your reaction time. Speed is always a factor, and balancing speed and concealment is a large part of the CCW equation in the first place. And it’s not just extra time, but there’s also extra space required to charge your gun. Good luck doing it single-handed if you’ve never trained for it. And then there’s a big one that’s often ignored: the inevitable human muck-ups paired with Murphy’s Law.Racking the slide isn’t problem-free — the slip of a grip, imperfect purchase, hasty movement, or physical obstacles can foul that loading. Then, you spend even more time to fix the problem you just induced. John Correia’s Active Response Training YouTube channel is chock full of these examples. What about Mr. Murphy? The fact of the matter is that otherwise good and reliable guns malfunction more when they’re used in anger.A real-life violent encounter isn’t a leisurely day at the range no matter how you slice it.FIXING THE ISSUEGetting a safe gun, effective holster, and proper training solves most of these issues. Yet, if someone can’t afford a drop-safe gun, the empty chamber is still a way to ensure they have access to a gun on their person. The irony is that the people most likely to seek additional proficiency training are also the least likely to carry with an empty chamber in the first place. The average member of a Facebook gun group, YouTube Discord, or old-school gun forum certainly isn’t always ringing with responsibility, but they represent the upper 1 percent of gun owners when it comes to time spent training.And even when someone has more training than the average, carries drop-safe guns, and has holsters equipped with features to foul gun grabs, accidents still occur. There are countless examples of law enforcement officers having guns go bang when they didn’t intend. Toggles from rain jackets jam into triggers when holstering. Drop-safe-guns-that-aren’t falling in a Walmart bathroom. School kids getting their fingers in a cop’s holster. Casual handling and familiarity lead to complacency — and then to unwanted holes. IF YOU DO IT ANYWAYIt’s entirely possible that someone can have all of this information and still choose to carry without a round in the chamber. It’s important they understand that an empty chamber isn’t a replacement for training, safe storage, or a good holster. Instead, it’s a cobbled-together solution for those not addressing the larger issues at play. SOONER, NOT FASTERThe concept of “sooner, not faster” is especially relevant to empty chamber carry. Faster refers to speed, while sooner refers to time. This concept applies to much more than empty chambers, but also to those who pocket carry or have a rifle in the trunk. Since you already know you’ll need extra time and space, you need to prepare more in advance for your draw, and need to identify farther in advance of when it might have to occur. 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Condition 3, as some call it, has lots of benefits. It makes you calmer when you holster, carry, or remove the gun, and this can make your outward demeanor calmer, and thus more covert. In a wild west movie type of showdown you will only be slightly slower, but what sane person would engage in that?
Depends on what edc I'm carrying and where. I work in a gun club/range that's sometimes hectic and I appendix carry unchambered. Why? Because the safety of my customers and coworkers is my priority, and the chance of an AD is zero or close to it. That being said, if I'm heading to the quicky mart at 1 AM, of course there's one in the pipe.
And the answer is...there is no answer. Sometimes yes, sometimes no could end in disaster. I had an hk that was designed so the firing pin rotated away from center when the safety was on. It would seem that a reliable design and loaded chamber would be the way to go If you disagree refer to line one.
Felons are expert in surprise attacks which give them the advantage. I always carry with one in the pipe and practice situation awareness at all times. If they have the drop on me I will wait for an opening to draw and fire. I also train 2-3 times a week with dry fire or range with my HK VP9 sk. I am 77 years old and my spouse and I believe in being prepared to protect ourselves. My advice is to train to carry with around a round in the chamber. Split seconds could mean the difference between life and death.
Great example of why much of what the military does is not applicable to personal defensive carry. Very different context.