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Why is the Ammo Gone?

In the early stages of the COVID-19 lockdowns, the media began reporting on a surge in firearms sales across the United States. Fast forward to almost August, and everyone is asking “where did all the ammo go?” Online retailers are out of stock, you can't get rounds from big box stores, and what ammo is available is either limited in quantity or highly priced. According to reps in the ammo industry, demand right now is 10x higher than during the 2013 ammo shortage.

Certainly, you could shout “supply and demand” which is technically correct, but also a gross oversimplification of the answer. To understand why we're in an ammo shortage, we have to dig in to both sides of supply and demand. At the risk of putting the cart before the horse, the first aspect of the current crisis we want to examine is why the demand for ammo is so high.

In a phone interview with Mike Fisher, the VP of Sales and Marketing for Magtech, he pointed out that over the last few years, demand for ammo has been relatively flat. After the recovery from the 2013 crisis, and during the “Trump Slump,” the ammo market has been pretty stable. In 2018, the National Shooting Sports Foundation reported that the entire industry made 8.1 billion rounds of ammo, across all calibers and gauges.

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Why is demand so high?

But now, several unique factors are driving the increase in demand. The first, are the COVID-19 lockdowns. People started buying more guns, and when people buy more guns they also buy more ammo. That would have been fine, but then the civil unrest started. Nothing makes people more uncomfortable than seeing Starbucks on fire, so Americans did what Americans do: bought more guns and ammo. Add to that the fact that it's an election year anyway, and ammo sales always spike in an election year, and you've got historic levels of demand creating an ammo shortage.

Demand is also driven by the same psychological factors that caused the toilet paper shortage: hoarding. According to recent research (Sheu & Kuo, 2020) “hoarding stems from a human’s response, either rationally or emotionally, to scarcity, and so may occur on either the supply or the demand side. As argued by [other researchers], hoarding can be an overall response that involves a mix of a strategic, rational and emotional human responses (such as anxiety, panic and fear) to perceived threats to supply.” That's a smart person way of saying that when people think we're going to run out of ammo, they buy as much as they can and sit on it, which contributes to the scarcity by artificially inflating demand.

Another factor driving increased demand, and oddly higher prices as well are the huge numbers of new gun owners entering the market. The NSSF estimates that up to 40% of the guns sold this year have been to first time gun buyers. With sales at over 8 million guns and going strong, that's a lot of new owners buying guns. They're also buying ammo, but unlike people who have been doing this for a while, they have no idea what ammo is “supposed” to cost. To someone who moved to Texas from LA and now they want a gun, paying $25.99 for a box of 9mm seems reasonable, because that's just what it costs at the moment.

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So just make more ammo, right?

With demand driven by spikes in buying, hoarding, and new gun owners, what is the industry doing to keep up? Every company I spoke with is already at maximum capacity. Magtech is running 3 shifts, Federal is working around the clock, and the smaller guys are making ammo as fast as they can. The problem is that only a few companies produce ammo at the volumes needed – companies like Magtech and Federal, for example. They're already at capacity, and adding capacity for a company that large is actually difficult. Adding a new line to make more 9mm ammo requires purchasing expensive machines, installing them, quality control on the new machines, and hopefully getting all that done in time to make enough ammo to pay off the cost of the new machines before the bottom drops out of the market. It's actually easier for smaller companies to add capacity, because there are ammo manufacturing machines that produce rounds at a lower rate, which are more affordable. But these small machines produce thousands of rounds a month as opposed to the tens of millions of rounds that Winchester is manufacturing, and that won't make a dent in the ammo shortage. It's also important to remember that the increased consumer demand must be met along with existing government contracts. The same ammo lines that make rounds for gun shops also make rounds for federal, state, and local law enforcement agencies, and those contracts don't disappear because it's hard to make or source primers.

There are other, not so front page economic effects of COVID-19 that affect the supply lines for raw materials and components. Raw materials like lead, copper, and brass for projectiles, primers, and casings is one piece, and the other is gunpowder itself. The economic downturn not only impacts the industries that produce the raw materials, but with politically tense tariffs, sourcing materials globally takes a two-fold hit: first by supply line disruption via pandemic, and second, the cost-effectiveness through government sanctions. This trickles down to the consumer as well, not leaving behind the choices manufacturers must choose about price and shipping. Additionally, Reuters reported that the trucking industry has taken a massive hit due to regulations around COVID-19, threatening the future of smaller overland shipping operations that have less than 20 vehicles on the road. 

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No end in sight

Some industry experts estimate that we won't see a return to normal inventory levels for 12 months, even when assuming a Republican presidential victory in November. Normal inventory is defined as being able to buy as much as ammo as you want and can afford from the internet or your local retailer. Worse yet, prices may not return to pre-COVID levels for an up to 12 months after that. The long term disruption to the supply chain tends to result in increased costs for manufacturers which will get passed on to the consumer until we see a full economic recovery. Unless one of the factors causing massive demand suddenly changes or disappears, we can expect to see increased prices and rationing for some time to come.

That being the case, market disruption is the time for entrepreneurs to make strides where they would normally be crawling. Smaller ammunition manufacturing businesses now have a chance to capture part of the market otherwise dominated by big names, and with the multitude of new shooters, that stockpile of ammunition can quickly turn into a head start for competitions in the coming years. The difference between preparedness and hoarding in this world, is an ammo shortage is only a negative for the later.


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186 responses to “Why is the Ammo Gone?”

  1. JLo says:

    Suckers!!! Hahahah. Should have jumped on it and bought at the right times. I know three people who bought guns for the first time and can’t even shoot em 😂😂. Feels great to be a life long owner and know others as well who were smart and bought little by little.

    • Gus says:

      You’re a real peach. New gun owners are good. I for one love the fact there are new gun owners. I very much enjoy helping them make an informed purchase and helping them with their choices, their safety and their abilities with their new weapons.

      A great thing about the current new gun owners, from my experiences with the ones I know…they are also new NRA members, they are now former Democrat voters and they now understand why the 2A is so important to defend.

      • JLo says:

        I love peaches. New owners are good. Never said they weren’t. No need to virtue signal here. Too much of that these days.

      • Hawk says:

        well put Gus!

      • Red Hawk 1 says:

        I enjoy going to the large gun shows. Over the past few years I have observed Blacks buying large amounts of weapons (not sporting rifles) and serious ammo. Seeing Black groups marching, and threating whites, over the last couple of months I doubt that these are NRA members. In my area the Blacks are going to be much better armed than the police or the White population.

        • Stu says:

          I have also. Not overt gang-bangers but a bit disconcerting nonetheless.

        • Lou says:

          I’m an NRA instructor and am being swamped with requests for CCW instruction. Most of the students are first time gun owners and more than half are women and some are in late teens for just firearms safety instruction because their parents are now going to have a gun in the house. All good reasons.
          The riots and destruction are scaring People who have always considered their neighborhoods safe and now are listening to rioters who are threatening to move to rural areas and cause trouble there.
          I have helped dozens of people to find and buy a handgun in the last 6 months.
          They all are buying Ammo.

        • Shooter says:

          Red hawk I understand your concern but don’t necessarily agree with all of your post.
          The white crew I run with 20 to 50 are not going to be out gunned or out ammo by anyone out there. We have expected and planned for any bad decisions that will take place. Stay safe sir.

        • Jason K says:

          You’re part of the problem..

        • Mingaux says:

          Red Clown 1: Lol. Your racist fear mongering and insecurity are a big part of what’s fueling this ammo crisis. The fact that you think armed Black people is a “danger” is just sad. White sheet creeps like you are the bread and butter the Dummycrats use to sell more “gun control”.

        • Marilyn says:

          Racist much?

        • Sal says:

          I have seen many Blacks buying guns and attending the range. They are family types and guys with girlfriends and their wives. They have the same fears everyone has…..that the police will not be able to defend them and realize they need to defend themselves. This isn’t a racial issue. Actually it’s a radical left vs people who believe in freedom. Freedom lovers come in all colors and ethnicities.

        • Mom of 3 says:

          @Red Hawk 1 – Ok… I’m a Veteran, Black, Educated, Female, Conservative, and a member of the NRA, and plan to join 2nd Amendment. I own several guns and before the shortage went to the range 3 times a week to practice. Please start seeing individuals and not group everyone who looks the same into one group.
          Remember when 911 happened, we all stopped seeing race and started seeing people and banded together as Americans. So if I am well armed and I see someone hurting my White, Asian, Hispanic, Black, etc… neighbor beat believe I am not looking at their race I am think.. How can I help protect them and their family, and I pray someone is looking at me the same. We are not enemies and it’s time we stop looking at each other as enemies, but as Americans.

        • Stanley says:

          Racist idiot loser.

        • Chuck says:

          Unfortunately we are in the first stages of a civil unrest or war if you want to call it that and people will only be able to settle it in the streets!!

        • Roger says:

          Mom of 3. Glad there are good people like you out there.
          Old white guy

      • Michael says:

        thanks Gus, this peach is also forgetting that some of us spent 12 to 14 months shooting different guns, different calibers and got caught in this insanity without being an ignorant panic buyer…..People tell me, it wasnt raining when Noah built the Ark….well, I kind of needed to know what Gun I was buying before I would massively stock up on ammo. I bought the X5 Legion and love it very much. Next, P365….then I wanna have some fun with a riffle….havent dived into that world yet, but itll be fun. Joining NRA and USCCA this weekend. Saving the little ammo I have for home defense…..Thanks for being real!

        • Sal says:

          Join the Second Amendment Foundation and keep the NRA on hold until they come clean about the shenanigans going on.

        • Mom of 3 says:

          @Sal – I recently joined the NRA because the range I am a members of stated to join, we had to support the NRA. I recently heard of Second Amendment. Is there a vast difference between the two?

      • D Dean says:

        Amen to that. “Suckers.”🙄 What a jackass.

    • rj says:

      they see the light…help’um, advise ‘um
      not laugh at them

    • Michael says:

      That’s not a mature statement.

    • Ant says:

      JLo, you must be one of those right wing conspiracy theory lunatics that hoards ammo and never trains with it for fear that the apocalypse is coming HAHAHAHAHA. You probably suck at shooting and can’t defend your family, but at least you have tens of thousands of rounds! Sucker!! LMAO!!!

    • Steve says:

      Just what’s needed…another self-important, nasty cynic.

    • Richard McEnroe says:

      Who buys a gun and walks out the door without ammo?

      • Demntd1 says:

        Those that already have an ammo stockpile at home.

      • Marcus says:

        Its not that they didn’t buy a box or two then, but really who buys a gun for the First Time and walks out with enough ammo to effectively train..? Nobody. They don’t know better, and think “I only need 50-100 rounds to defend the house, and wow, this stuff is expensive!” There once was a time I thought 1k rounds was way more than I needed. these days I go through about 20k/year, and still wish I could train more. Thank god for progressive loading machines…

        • Chuck says:

          Ya, your right. What I Hate is the crazy prices they put on steel and aluminum, and the way out prices on brass. The ammo producers are in the middle of raping us as much as they can!!!!!!!!!

      • David says:

        Me. Bought a 9mm and the store didn’t have any ammo to go with it. Lucky I have a bunch already.

    • Tim says:

      Gloating over poor saps who get blindsided by ammo prices makes you part of the problem, bro. Reasonable suspecting you one of those vultures who walks his retired butt into a store, drops a couple grand emptying the place outta target ammo, and then flips it on gunbroker for $1/rd. Inhibiting new gun buyers isn’t kosher. It’s detrimental to 2A efforts and destabilizing to our national security

    • rhorton says:

      Your an idiot!

    • Ronno says:

      Likewise, gives one a warm fuzzy feeling knowing one was prepared and can afford to pick and choose.

    • Truth says:

      My Grandma always used to say, “Cook before you’re hungry.” Same applies to prepping & stockpiling.

    • Steven says:

      Got to agree with you. I found some 223 ammo around a month ago for about $240 per thousand. I got 2k rounds. Glad now I did. Is that hording ? Maybe, but in dire times ammo will be like cigarettes and liquor. You can ALWAYS sell or trade them !

    • skip says:

      BET FOR THE RIGHT PRICE, YOU’D SELL YOUR AMMO.

  2. Scott Thomas says:

    Sad that it took a national pandemic and literal riots to make people understand how important the 2nd ammendmant really is. Personally I learned my lesson last time ammo got short and stocked up a bit.

    • Krompir says:

      I purchased my first handgun after the looting and rioting, but that in no way meant that I didn’t understand the importance of the 2nd Amendment. I’ve been a supporter of the NRA ever since I’ve been able to afford to donate. In addition, I’ve supported candidates that support the 2nd Amendment. What me and others like me took for granted is the fact that in the United States we have everything whenever we need, however, chance favors the prepared.

  3. Not Sherlock says:

    Caleb Giddings the guy no one likes who is now playing capt obvious…

    No sh¡t sherlock!

  4. Caleb Cumguzzler says:

    Why would anyone let Caleb Giddings write an article for them knowing he is a piss poor spokes person even for himself. Recoil Web dot com must be doing really bad if they rely on this joker to write for them.

    • Mitch says:

      WOW! Really? All you guys take a deep breath.

      First, since when did it get to dog eat dog?

      Jlo’s statement may be a bit antagonistic, but I know at some point we have all kinda felt vilified by the leftist agenda and endured the left arguments.

      Only criminals need more than 10 rounds, 1 round or no rounds if the left had their way

      Only criminals, or the police need assault rifles.

      That was before they came to the conclusion that the very police that they gave so much power to might become or are a real threat to them.

      Yea, it’s natural to want to stand up and laugh at those who have berated and belittled you for simply having a different opinion or worse for wanting the same freedom of choice that your detractors have for themselves.

      Many of the intellectuals that may now understand the security provided to themselves or their families By having a firearm in the home are now dealing with the red tape that they created in acquiring such and maybe it will give them pause to think.

      Do we want to point our fingers at them, laugh and mock them, maybe.

      But how does that help us? For the future?

      How does fighting and berating each other help us. Remember these folks were/are as much afraid of us as any criminal which is why they went law crazy to begin.

      Now is the time to show our new brothers and sisters in arms, at arms, with arms that we are the level headed ones and that they are the ones that are ones that were paranoid and overreacted with draconian, repressive laws, rules and regulations.

      So look you bunch of neanderthals, let’s first, let’s quit fighting each other.

      Second, let’s bring these new folks int to our ranks, welcome them, help them while helping ourselves.

      This crisis is not going to last for ever and while there are many out there that hope this will be the apocalypse of organized societies. It’s not, and when the world turns around and the double tongue politicians start looking to point their fingers at gun owners as the root of all evil.

      These folks may just have a different opinion because of their own personal experience.

      Food for thought, I hope, or just tell me what puss I am.

      • PHS says:

        I like the way you think. This right here, this is what everyone needs to come to grips with and the kind of attitude that we should all have.

      • Todd says:

        I think the not needing more than 10 round statement is absurd. Just to train every year I shoot about 200-300 rounds. That’s just for me. If I want to take family to the range that number goes way up. I carry a spare magazine on my person always, then one in my car and a few in my safe. 10 rounds is pretty low.

        If you are only training or carrying a handgun to prevent a one on one assault then maybe 10 rounds is enough…. maybe not. You need to study more self-defense shootings. Most situations you crystal ball predict for may or may not happen. What if you are at the store and there are multiple shooters like the Wal Mart shooting where a CCW carrier and 2 cops were shot by a couple on the rampage. What if you run into heavily armed Kebold and harris type situation? Home Invasion? etc. If you think 10 rounds is enough you need to do some research and train with a pro like Gabe Suarez.

      • Lou says:

        relax! It’s the Internet! No one will remember your long post either! If they can’t conduct themselves properly online, definitely can’t be respectful in the real world.

  5. Barrack Obama says:

    Trying to figure out who is worse, the YankeeMarshall or Caleb? Or better yet who sucks who off? 🤔

  6. Sherri Johansen says:

    Is Caleb still making an ass out of himself on youtube? He is the reason the saying “only two things come from Texas” comment is still alive today and he doesn’t look much like a steer to me, so that kinda narrows it down.

  7. blow me says:

    isn’t recoil mag the anti second ammendment shitrag that said common citizens should not own semi auto “assault” weapons. f recoil and f the author, caleb, whoever the f that is. blow me.

  8. Bemused Berserker says:

    There are a lot more factors driving the shortage than what the author lists. Raw material costs have increased, which is just one alone. The simple fact that the ammunition industry is not sufficient for the demand, and hasn’t been for years now, is evident. Toss in governmental purchases at the local, State and Federal levels, and it’s obvious that the private consumer will be the last to receive a product.
    Bottom line is that until there’s Political Stability, the shortages will continue.

  9. Overtime Forever Sucks says:

    I am a manufacturer. To many idiots that bought toilet paper are buying ammo. Stop it now! You are screwing our loyal customers that buy ammo and shoot weekly competitions.

    • Plandemic says:

      Amen brother

    • Stan Livingston says:

      Right on Brother

      • Corky says:

        I think all the new gun buyers come from 2 groups ,the people who are scared and no nothing about firearms . Especially after watching all the rioting during the black lives matter protest ,from antifa ,the second group are the black folks there’s maybe the the same reason ,I don’t really know .i personally shoot 6000 -8000 rounds a year of mixed calibers ant the range and didn’t notice till 22 lr started getting scarce then 223 followed by 9mm then reloading primers .now prices are so high I would refuse to pay those kind of prices .people own tactical reasons for 2 reasons one sport shooting maybe. A little hunting the second is part of the second amendment if you have to defend your GOD givin rights against your own Government AR’s are the weapon of choice .i do feel sorry for first time gun buyers who buy a gun only to find out there’s no ammo , a gun is a big investment for some .hopefully you can get enough if SHTF and we get back to normal ,I still see some guys shooting 100-300 rounds of 223. At the range

    • 2A User says:

      I apologize that the basic consumer watches the news, sees the violence, sees that government either does not care or actively supports it, and wants to defend himself (and that means practice with the new firearm). I apologize that us basic consumers are taking away a product that your “loyal customers” apparently have a god-given right of priority, so they case waste millions of rounds shooting for fun. Apparently the basic consumer has no 2A rights, but your “loyal customers” do.

      • Ant says:

        “DoNt sHooT fOr FuN!” In other words, don’t train. Just sit on your fat ass and hoard ammo while pretending you can somehow defend yourself just because you have tens of thousands of rounds of ammo in the event of an unlikely apocalypse. Meanwhile, you haven’t shot a gun in years because you’re afraid to waste target ammo. Interesting.

    • The Original Sheep dog says:

      Exactly!

    • Chuck says:

      PRICES are out of control. PERIOD!!!!!!!!!!!

  10. Superb article. Likely all correct. However if the feds who are stimulating the economy, are they stifling amo manufacturers? They seem to want to support essential products, so they say, but what is more essential than self defense? Feds should stimulate amo industry, but likely they will not because it is not PC.

  11. Mikial says:

    The trick to never running out of ammo is the same as for making sure you have emergency stocks of food and medical supplies. When I go grocery shopping, we buy a little extra each trip. The same goes for first aid supplies and other consumables like batteries. Buy a little bit of extra ammo each month, and when the shortage rolls around . . . which it will, you will already have plenty of ammo on hand without either having to go broke panic buying or buying so much there’s none left for anyone else.

  12. Rebel with a cause says:

    I talked with a flag supplier today who still sells Confederate battle flags and he says its his biggest seller! Still waiting on the five I bought for myself and friends who still honor their Southern heritage. Learned my lesson in 2013 and I buy more ammo stock when things are quiet and prices good. I’ve got four calibers to use. These days its good to have several thousand rounds in a variety. Can’t ever tell when the SHTF! I thought it was ironic that sales of that flag were high like ammo and weapons.

    • Bondedcore says:

      Honor your heritage? Do you celebrate the time you almost go divorced with your wife / husband at the same time you celebrate your anniversary? Last time I checked there was one American flag, you don’t fly the Union Jack because we used to be a British colony do you?

      • Nothing but the truth says:

        Who got your panties in a bunch. Who cares if he is proud of his Southern heritage. I am too. Your comment about flying the Union Jack is crazy. He can be proud of one and not the other. You need to go back to your “woke” friends and start tearing down Confederate monuments or anything else you feel is not in line with your view of what someone else should celebrate as part of there heritage.

  13. Greg says:

    Personally, I like seeing Starbucks on fire.

    • Farwalker says:

      the ladies in tight yoga pants will have to pay $15 for a latte after they rebuild that Starbucks. But that’s OK I bought some federal HST 147 grain today for 13 cents a round more than I paid last December. Was happy to find it as my stocks were getting low on defensive ammo. Still have plenty of FMJ but will limit my range time to once a month.

  14. Joe D. Stevens says:

    We may buy all of the guns we can afford. Congress, however, will make sure to price and tax ammo out of existence, except for the protection of themselves and their friends, of course. Everything gun related is difficult to find. And the cost increases are beyond reasonable.

  15. Obama is a moron says:

    I reload. Haven’t bought commercial ammunition for decades.

    • Luxury Interior says:

      Amen. I consider a die set and components a necessary part of adding a new caliber to the stable. Do I have die sets I’ve never used taking up space? Sure do. Small price to pay for the ability to “roll your own” in times like these.

    • Marcus says:

      same. and I generally buy tens of thousands of primers and projectiles, and cases of 8# jugs of powder in the fall, and just crank out ammo all winter. With the lack of major matches this year, I have more than enough to share with the new shooters I’m taking to the range

    • Jed says:

      Many places are now out of stock for reloading supplies. I have to wonder if some one world communist government agenda and/or international bankers n elitist buddies haven’t been orchestrating various supply shortage in the back ground somewhere/somehow. What a nutty world when a farmer can’t find or afford ammunition to get rid of coyotes. I’d like to get a thermal scope but those prices are bad too.

  16. Jay Andre says:

    Wow, what a long winded explanation! Myeyes started to glaze over! I haven’t had a problem finding ammo. Especially on the internet. If you have the money, who a saying how much it costs? There’s a saying, “If you have to ask the price, then you can’t afford it!!” You have to “pay to play!!” And who cares if the big ammo companies buy more machines, they’ll recoupe that expense b4, as you say, “the bottom falls out!” If the ammo companies also hire more people, they should be informed, as soon as the company is back to normal production, they will be let go. At least they will have been employed for a couple of years, according to you

  17. Bruce Wayne says:

    Time to start dryfiring more. I would also say time to start reloading, except a lot of those supplies have dried up as well. Overall a good, if gloomy, article, though.

  18. Nancy Pelosi says:

    It’s everywhere and don’t give me this bullshit of a shortage, it’s merely a way to price gouge. Bulk ammo tried that shit when there were rumors about banning green tip 556. Just when CA passed the background for ammo, sales soared, but nothing close to a shortage. It’s the first time gun owners that they know they can sodomize…

    • Marcus says:

      please link to 4 websites where someone can go buy 100 rounds of 9mm. should be easy if its “everywhere”. go ahead, we will wait..

      • acannon says:

        Second Attempt. The first had a single URL, which apparently was rejected by the forum moderator.

        Google on: Ammoseek

        Plenty of folks selling. I make no claims about inexpensive cost.

  19. buddyw says:

    I just bought a new gun. This makes a total of 4 I have. I generally have 300+ rounds of ammo for each at home. Sucks I can’t shoot my new gun because there was no 9mm ammo anywhere. When I found ammo, I bought all I could afford. I don’t see it as hording. I got an extra 200 for my guns, and 750 for my new 9mm. I want to shoot, and still keep 300+ rounds at home. If it’s wrong, then I will just have to be wrong. I ordered it online, and have to wait 2 weeks to get it. Shelves at the store, and the range, are empty.

  20. Pat says:

    Anybody that tried to buy .22 3-4 years ago should have been stocking up on their calibers. I did.

  21. Justin Cider says:

    You know what I find ridiculous? You people seem to think that gun ownership an all-or-nothing affair, in both a literal and a political sense, as though there is no place for sensible firearms regulations or gun owners who vote for democrats. Its time to stop all this petty us-vs-them tribalistic bullshit. F the NRA. Think for yourself.

    • John Smith says:

      What do you mean by “you people”? How dare you!
      BLM

      (Bullet Lives Matter)

    • Luxury Interior says:

      Incorrect. Gun owners should have no tolerance for people who would support the gun-grabbing Democrats — especially if they own guns. You know what we call someone who masquerades as a member of one group but provides material support to the opposition? A saboteur. In this case; a treasonous, traitorus, saboteur who would undermine our natural rights protected by the Constitution for some free shit and new illegal alien buddies. Fuck off and take your “common sense” talking points with you. No more gun control. Not now, not ever. Repeal the NFA. Defund the BATFE. Never again!

    • James says:

      Only a stupid person would vote for someone in a political party that is actively working against their best interest. Democrats try to push as much gun control as possible. So if you are a gun owner and vote for a democrat, you are just plain stupid.

    • Marcus says:

      You lost all cred at “sensible firearms regulations”

      “shall not be infringed” is the phrase you’re looking for here.

  22. Jim says:

    What do you mean F the NRA. If it wasn’t for the NRA you wouldn’t even have the right to own a BB gun.

  23. Thomas Jefferson says:

    GOA is the only thing that keeps the NRA in line. The NRA sold us out with the GCA of ’68, and are all too eager to “compromise”. The GOA NEVER compromises your rights. Frankly, NOBODY has the “right” to compromise your rights, except you. Think about which organization you would rather send your dues to.

  24. Little green men are everywhere says:

    Just curious, how much did .22 magnum ammo used to cost per 50 rounds? Thank you for the answer.

  25. Satire V says:

    I don’t think the author did enough research. The story might hold water if ammunition was in shorter supply, but there is NO supply. Not in stores, not online. There would be smaller inventories and possibly higher prices, but not a complete lack of any ammunition at all, except in less common calibers. Store owners I’ve talked to are saying that they can’t get ammunition. Period. Not “only small quantities” or “less than usual” or “we get it but is sells out quickly”. They aren’t getting any.

    • Gene says:

      I agree. Like SGA usually has about 50 kinds of 9 mm in stock. Now it is ZERO. and not just the U.S. made, No Russian, European, lower quality, higher quality. This is NOT a coincidence.

    • Corky says:

      It s trickling in I saw on gun broker primer going for 150 a box of thousand instead of the normal 30.00 but my take is somthing else is going on other than hording if I had to guess it’s the government if a ammo manufacturer has contracts to make ammo for military or home land security they have to meet that contract date of suffer severely this is what happened last time when home land security bought up all the ammo a few years back you couldn’t find anything

      • Mom of 3 says:

        @Corky – I thought the same thing that it’s a government conspiracy… it’s weird that all of a sudden we have a nationwide shortage.

  26. Raymond Raccuglia says:

    When basic reloading supplies are hard if not impossible to fine you know things are tough. I reload 45 colt as my boys and I like to do single action shooting. I have all I need to load .40 sw just have to set it all up. With practice rounds approaching .50 each I guess it’s time. Primers are a issue but have 5000 so good for now.

  27. John Doe says:

    I don’t believe it. This is a golden opportunity for ammo producers since demand is so great. To think that they cannot ramp up production to meet demand is humbug.

  28. Kevin says:

    It’s interesting that buying ammunition when it’s available is “hoarding”.

    • RoyInNC says:

      The term “hoarding” is used to demonize some folks that were forward thinking. I would use that term to describe those that stockpile for the purpose of profiteering, but not for those that merely acquired enough to buffer their own shooting needs in a time of shortage.

  29. Paul says:

    I bought my guns and ammo a long time ago. Right after Dollar Bill Clinton left office and Bush dropped the ‘assault rifle’ ban.

    Plus I reload! This whole thing makes me laugh. Amazing how many people just don’t learn.

  30. Robert says:

    Well my 2cents is this. Nobody seen this coming not like this. But it’s not a total loss. There is a lot of guns and ammo out there in private hands that can be picked up under the right conditions. You may have to pay a high price or trade for it but it’s possible to do it.

  31. Norm says:

    I just bought a 9mm. First time gun owner. I walked out of the store with the last 50 round box of ammo. I am going to the range this week. Looks like only a couple of mags will be my limit so I can save a few for home defense. I am sure there was hoarding. ALL online sources I have checked are out. I was going to join the range as a member, but that would be a waste of money as there is no ammo to shoot. Looks like the gun is just about worthless now.

  32. nick says:

    what the hell, when there is a huge demand there should be a huge supply. Make it happen grasshopper!

  33. John says:

    I think we are all getting played here. Besides all the small local dealers I have gone to two Bass Pro Shops in Miami/Ft Lauderdale. They have had NO shipments for 3 weeks. .25, .32, 10mm 45LC 3-4 boxes of each

  34. Jim R says:

    The real reason is everyone associated with the gun industry are a bunch of GD price gouging crooks. Tramps and thieves. Complete lack of moral character.

  35. Jimmy James says:

    If the mfrs are working 24/7 producing ammo, where is it? Must be going somewhere besides middlemen and retailers.

    • Lisa L Bryant says:

      Come on guys….instead of spreading your feathers and strutting around posturing why not offer something helpful. First time I’ve been on this site and I’m freaking looking for ammo and answers. And what do I get but a bunch of testosterone and a-holes. I work FT, am a caregiver for a disabled spouse and never thought I’d be the one concerned about buying ammo for home and self protection. But here I am. I found exactly 100 rounds of HP 9mm today online. I can buy FMJ anywhere. I have a Beretta neo and .22 long rifle is anywhere too. So somebody needs to get on the stick and get the ammo out there for those of us who just realized we need it. You turkeys or pheasants or whatever the heck you thing you are need to fold up the feathers and start acting like you want to part of the solution and not part of the problem.

    • Marcus says:

      Jimmy- it shows up, and is off the shelf as soon as they get it. AIM had a pallet of 9mm a couple weeks ago, sold out in a few hours. PSA regularly has 40, 9 jhp’s etc, but they sell out the day the email goes. Its a combo of people buying it up to sit on, and people buying it up to resell on GB/AL

    • Tony says:

      A lot of it is in the pipe but is getting routed to the good ole boys team and straight to GB. I was in that club until I married a young lady from Juarez Mexico. They didn’t like that.

    • Chuck says:

      How do you know?????

  36. Jerry Schmidt says:

    Donald Trump will do anything to stay in office and turn this country into one of dictatorship. If it serves the Don he will do it including taking your gun away. I voted for him in 2016 but now consider him the biggest threat to the 2nd. When you decide to protest in the street against him, and you will because he doesn’t care about you, he will declare Marshall law and order you to turn in your weapons or be shot because you are of no longer a use to him. This guy won’t stop until it’s Heil Trump!

    • john kelly says:

      shut your face karen and move to france.

      • Carlos Danger says:

        LOL. That was awesome, John. Best comment on here.

        • Independent says:

          I bought gun and ammo because of trump, not the democrat’s. I don’t need much. If you can’t take care of business with a single box of ammo you just can’t. And for all of you in the bunkers or mountains with 10,000 rounds I’ve got a question, how many rounds does it take to put out a cabin fire?

    • rhorton says:

      Boy are you confused!!!! Did you just climb out from under a rock. You need to pull your head out of your butt cheeks!…..Go ahead and vote for Biteme….and hairless Harris…they already said they are going to take your guns away…
      Wake up….and smell the coffee. Well you have to pull your head out first!!!!!!!!1

    • Dave McCann says:

      Jerry, you’re shown yourself to be a moron. And we doubt you voted for Trump in 2016 so add liar to the list.

    • Peenpusher says:

      Jerry sucks peens… with his butt

    • Chuck says:

      Jerry is your last name Springer?????????????

  37. 72 Harley Shortster says:

    I agree with Lisa, don’t hoard

  38. John says:

    This is for Gus. I am a Democrat who recently bought his first gun. I am still a Democrat. I don’t like leaders who fail to uphold their oath to uphold the Constitution. Instead, he is violating the Constitution. Also, I certainly don’t like being lied to by the President.

  39. N.Pelosi says:

    I dont buy the buying new tooling is a risk because these ammo shortages are the norm now days. Invest now and they will pay off in short order.
    Besides I am heavily invested in small arms manufacturers.

  40. NickMemphis says:

    Just like the 2013 shortage… This too shall pass.

  41. coolmeadow Kid says:

    Well, I recoiled, all right. Can’t say it was a pleasure. Can say I won’t be back.

  42. David roberts says:

    I’m sick and tired of you so called experts blaming the shortage of ammo on us people who had the foresight to stock pile which is no different than us buying a side of beef canning our own food etc. if the people that are complaining about ammo shortage they should’ve thought about that 5 yrs ago when Obama was president

  43. nick oteen says:

    please, cant we all get along. and obama is a brownnosing half white knee gro scum politician that makes me sick. he brings shame on the white side of his :brotherhood: and dont get me started on the JAW michell

  44. Kimbro Slice says:

    Not sure if this is as easy a rebound as 2013. Read somewhere that EPA imposed restrictions on lead in 2014, shut down those plants we had stateside. Now most of the lead production is China, who we happen to be doing the tariff war shuffle with. Brass is in a similar situation, a lot comes from South America where CV 19 has hammered them a bit worse, which in turn reduces the supply line, never mind the demand. Kind of a perfect storm as far as ammo goes.

    • Tony says:

      Do you see a shortage on car batteries or anything else with lead in it? I don’t and the price on car batteries isn’t gone up. Riddle me that Batman .

      • Kimbro Slice says:

        If you were buying two bullets every six years or so, I see your logic, Joker, I just think the bullet industry is a bit more dynamic and more subject to manipulation.
        Peace, just my two.

  45. Old Cranky says:

    I have been reloading for 55 years. My best investment was a Dillon 550, a Lyman lead pot, and lots of dies and bullet molds. Need I say more?

    • Tony says:

      Good for you! You can have them bury you with it. I reload a bit but I’m also a distributor and my prices are about the same wholesale and I spend that time shooting.

  46. Micheal Burgess says:

    Ammo is hard to find,it gas ben for about 13 years,unless you have the money to lay down a few grand,you wont get a lot of Ammo,and in case you did not know,just ask your self,who has an unlimited amount of money to buy Ammo?
    the Federal Government,that who,so Just think about that for a while,now you will know why we have a Ammo shortage.🤗

  47. Derron D says:

    Covid my ass, the sales of both guns and ammo sky rocketed, when these riots as a result of police shootings went through the roof.

  48. GMak says:

    The article was well written, very insightful and objectively neutral and presented logical conclusions based on verifiable facts and realistic assumptions. it is really too bad that the vast majority of comments that followed here were not. This is exactly what gives gun owners a bad rap and image as uneducated, emotional, self-righteous, right-wing fringe conspiracy theorists who can’t string two pieces of verifiable facts together for a logical argument – and who all share the same right-wing extremist views, politics, racism and ignorance. We don’t.

  49. Tony says:

    Wow, it’s depressing to see the way you Gun guys behave.

  50. Tony says:

    This whole shortage AGAIN is directly fault of the entire industry. I owned a small mom and pop gun smithing and accessory store up until retirement a couple years ago. The industry is a huge vulture that waits in the dark waiting for the first crisis to happen. Then all of a sudden they are running 29 hours a day producing as much as they can. This is a lie, I made a lot of friends in my 40 years of business and there’s a lot of things that would make you guys sick that’s going on. # 1 and the one that made me make my decision to retire is the greed involved in the industry now. You see the prices on GB with certain cals being the highest I have ever seen. This is fabricated by the industry it self. Kinda got ahead of myself / Store owners will group together so that we could put massive orders in together. Example instead of only ordering 100 AR-15 , we now can order 10000. If your in the good ole boy club you get what you need and the RAPE STARTS. I apologize for not making a whole lot of sense. I’m old but I hope you guys get the idea. Just FYI in December the lowest price one of my X distributors had on 9mm was 4.95 a box of some steel cased junk, per 50. S&B was the next lowest at about 5.85 a box of 50. All 115gr fmj. This was my price not retail. So these people paying .90 a round are absolutely desperate or absolutely stupid stupid stupid. Got that from Rain Maker. 🙂

  51. Tony says:

    Please spread the word if you want to to other shooters who have no idea what they are doing. Tell them what Ammo used to cost and how bad they are taking it in the lower regions.

  52. Banned dot video says:

    Call Academy (or your local ammo store), ask when they get their shipments, arrive on that day an hour before they open. There are buying limits but in 3 weeks I’ve squirreled-away 1,000 rounds of 9mm and 1,000 rounds of 5.56. It’s time consuming and inconvenient but so is life.

  53. Samiam says:

    Banned dot vids, how much Ammo do you think you will need to fight off the predator drone that is gonna vape your house or apt when you won’t turn your guns over? Or when hordes of crazy, weed smoking knee gros are breaking into your apt to steal your food / toilet paper and ugly fat mutt ?
    Or they just say fk it and torch the whole place down the way they did WACO.

  54. Brian says:

    First time gun owner here. So I was wrong to by a million rounds of 9mm?

    • Preparedness says:

      Yes. You are what experienced shooters call a pay day. At best consider yourself able to barter for food and supplies with what you can carry but ammo is extremely heavy so your best bet is to keep anything of value in multiple secure and secret locations. As soon as things are desperate someone, probably close to you, will strip you of everything you have of worth. Your best bet, if you really have a shit ton of ammo which I doubt, is sell it while the price is high and form an escape plan for you and your loved ones. Boat, small plane, fuel, dehydrated foods, etc. Better to have it and not need it. That being said NOTHING EVER HAPPENS…

  55. OneGunSon says:

    JHC, you people are absolute rubes. I’ve been shooting for 40 years and all of a sudden because I can’t buy ammo that should worry me? 😂 GTFOH. The few magazines I do have loaded have a 99.9% chance of NOT being unloaded on an attacker(s). Reason being I’m not moronic enough to put myself directly in harms way. I got an old bike I’ve had for 20 years that I haven’t ridin in forever, but guess what? If I hopped on it tomorrow I’m not gonna fall off. Unless you literally JUST became a gun owner, an ammo shortage is a minor inconvenience. And if you did JUST become a new owner then dully recognize the need to get comfortable and proficient with your weapon of choice when ammo does surface. There’s nothing you can do at this point but realize you made a good decision to exercise your right to defend yourself and/or your family. The rest of you jagoffs need to calm tf down.

    • The kid says:

      Good one!! Liked it!! But if you all are stocking up for the end of the world. You might want to have a bag of arrows and a bow. (You can reuse arrows) that way when you are trying to get some food the angry hoard of hungry people won’t hear you shooting and come eat you!

  56. Svlago says:

    Curious if there is an anticipated surplus of used guns for sale in the foreseeable future.

  57. Lucas says:

    While sales are certainly up, let’s be real. Manufactures purposely limit the stock. I guarantee if you pay attention to the lot numbers, they will be the same next year as the ammo you purchased this year. Same thing happened in 08.

  58. Ben says:

    Thoughts from a newbie –

    Bought my first gun this year after moving to a state that allows edc. Relatively coordinated, brain functioning well, etc…. Figured this would be as simple as TV. WRONG

    Took my first lesson and while I enjoyed it, determined TV is completely fiction. While easy to pull trigger its another ballgame to shoot a target 5/7/10 yards accurately. Couple that with darkness and adrenaline pumping during a home invasion or out at your favorite store, good chance you won’t survive or may kill someone else.

    In the past 6 months I’ve shot over 4500 rounds. Multiple lessons (at least 20) and at least one practice every week at the range. Now up to holster drawing/shooting while moving and one handed firing. Took a friend out the other day who has owns/shot/handled guns for years. His accuracy was fair at best. Why – not practicing.

    I’ve seen newbies come into the range, buy a gun and leave. Wonder if they practice much or at all? Do they even know how to work it? I don’t know. But from my experience this requires learning/practice. Ok, perhaps some will say I just don’t have the skills and others may be much better then me from novice start. That’s true. But I would guess the average joe would find this difficult under stress. Looking forward to starting COF soon. May reset me back to square one. Hopefully, some of my training will help!

    As for ammo, stocked up by the thousands when it was selling for $9.99. I saw this coming.

    But, doesn’t mean you can’t practice dry/snaps at home, holster drawing if you carry or at least a couple boxes a month at a range. If you’re gonna handle a gun you better know how to use it.

  59. Stephen James Apke says:

    I have little sympathy for the first time gun owners as well. An acquaintance I know who is a hardcore liberal went out and purchased his 1st handgun do to the COVID-19 pandemic. He has asked for my assistance in cleaning/operating his firearm. I told him that I wouldn’t because he has voted for candidates throughout his life that would take my 2nd amendment rights away and disarm me completely. Total hypocrisy and I can’t stomach it. Screw all of the newby’s, I’m prepared and that’s all that matters.

    • Jim says:

      Dude, don’t close your mind to a potential Republican. Work on him. Perhaps you can change his mind on at least the current horrid laws and get him to vote on that. He asked for your help. Help him understand everything.

  60. Patrick says:

    Still say get your shotguns out. Even wal mart in my town has 12 ga ammo. Shotguns are great for riots and then there will be plenty of 9s on the ground for your procurement

  61. Patrick says:

    Hey. Pellet and bb guns are still good practice in absence of range time. Good for steadying your grip and working on your arc. Just saying. You use what you got when there is nothing else

  62. Old School says:

    I can’t help but shake my head in disbelief at the hoarding of ammo. Yes, I know all the arguments justifying the hoarding for some great “revolution.” However, ammo grows old and useless after awhile. Over a period of time, more and more rounds in each box turn into duds as the powder gets old. This is why you use old ammo for practice just to get rid of it.

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